The Adam Schmitt Interview
Adam
Schmitt is simply rock 'n roll. He writes great songs, they
rock without pretense, his lyrics are poignant and never ridden
with cliches, he can record the songs as well as any producer
in the world and his body of work is something that producers
twice his age would be proud to call their own. Releasing
two (2) albums on Reprise/Warner Brothers in the '90s, Schmitt
has been labeled a wunderkind, a teen idol, a flag waver for
"power pop" and all sorts of things that, to this
writer, shifted the focus away from his music, music which
sells itself.
For those unfamiliar with Adam's work, his music combines a keen sense
of melody supported by compact chord structure and a willingness to radically
change the key, tempo, theme and mood of a three (3) minute song. This
ear trickery creates sonic candy, allowing one's ears to be awakened constantly,
all the while being reinvigorated as his songs push and pull you. Only
the best in any genre can do this well. Adam Schmitt is simply one of
the best at what he does. Buy his records and you will know what I mean.
Adam
has released a new recording, Demolition, a collection of "demos"
that are classic Schmitt songs, each standing on its own in a compositional
sense. Although the songs are individual with their own themes and feel,
they contribute nicely to a cohesive whole. As is becoming a tradition
for those artists we interview here at Fufkin.com, this is a release which
will rank high among the best of 2001. We at Fufkin.com want to welcome
Mr. Schmitt back after a few years of hiatus from his last recording.
It's our pleasure to present our conversation with Adam Schmitt.
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DF:
The new album, Demolition, is described as a collection of home
demos. These are the best sounding demos I have ever heard! Do you feel
most comfortable creatively producing yourself and taking time to create?
Did that contribute to the 7 year period between CDs?
AS:
No, not really. I would have loved to have a producer and/or an engineer
to help me in the process of recording. I'm flattered that you think that
they don't sound like demos because that was what the title of the album
was meant to imply.
AS:
I'm not so sure that anybody does such a thing as a demo anymore. I think
that the line between a demo and an actual record is blurred a little
bit. Recording at home has been a hindrance to completing a recording
quickily, but lends itself to being a little indulgent in terms of how
long it takes for me to complete an actual recording. It takes me a week
or two to do one recording of one song. These demos have been spread out
over a period of four or five years. It is hard to find a straight month
or two where I don't have anything else to record other than my own material.
DF:
Do you work at writing everyday?
AS:
I try to pick up a guitar once or twice a day. I'll jot down some of my
ideas. In the vast scope of what I have been doing over the last 4 or
5 years, when you throw in the mix recording and producing others, the
last thing I want to do after a 12 hour day is pick up a guitar.
DF:
Is it true that you have a few albums recorded since your last released
recording?
AS: I think that's true with a lot of people. I downplay that because
I have spent so much time recording and not actually releasing records.
That was sort of the big lightbulb that finally went off that led to the
release of this CD. This CD was actually done maybe 2 1/2 years ago. I
didn't feel confident enough to release it at that time.
DF:
Well, I've heard the CD. You should feel very confident in the release
from the songs to the production and all aspects. I think of Demolition
as a logical step beyond Illiterature in that the songs sound just
as huge sonically, but the themes seem more personal. There is a maturity
on Demolition on a lot of levels.
AS:
Part of what I have realized about myself in the last 3 or 4 years is
that I am not very good at believing what I do is that good.
DF:
You and Brian Wilson!
AS:
Maybe a lot of others too. It's sort of like jumping off of a cliff. You
want to make sure that everything is going to go right. You hope that
you choose the right songs, and that they are in the right order. What
it finally comes down to is that you have to take that leap.
DF:
I think taking that leap is a little easier when you are leaping with
Parasol. You were involved with Parasol and its family of labels early
on. I have considered them to be one of the very few labels with a true
independent sensibility. They don't release bad records. How did you meet
them, and how much do you enjoy that the new CD is coming out on Parasol?
AS:
I think it's great. I have a long history with Geoff [Merritt, Parasol
head], even before I was on Warner Brothers. Geoff was the manager of
my first band in high school. Parasol is exactly where the record needs
to be. I'm a little frustrated with myself that it took so long for me
to give something to them to put out. There was a time when I was on Warners
that I contractually could not release a record on Parasol. Then, there
was a period of time when I almost got signed to a different major label,
and that, in a funny way, is sort of the beginning of the story of this
third album.
AS:
I spent a period of 2 or 3 years right after Illiterature's release
just working on demos. I never really considered the recordings to be
an album because I felt like, in 6 months, I would be recording the album
for real. Finally, in 1997, I had done so many records on Parasol for
other bands that Geoff asked if I wanted to put out a record with them,
even if a major came along later.
DF:
What did you learn as an artist from your Warner/Reprise experience? Did
it become a burden when they tried to label you this wunderkind producer
whiz kid? Do you think that this shifted some of the focus away from your
material?
AS:
I kind of felt like that. It wasn't Warner Brothers fault in anything
specific marketing me that they failed to do so much as
they didn't know what to do to market me. They were kind of grasping
at straws. I understand this more now than at the time it was actually
occurring. There were a lot of discrepancies on the first album. For example,
artwork. I thought the art on World So Bright was pointed more
in a teen pinup sort of direction. Around that time, I picked up the new
Jellyfish CD [Bellybutton]. When I heard that, I felt that this
was what I was trying to do. The pinup image and the artwork issue made
my image a bit vague and, to top it all off, the wunderkind concept made
no sense where I did not play all the instruments on World So Bright.
It's one of the big ironies because I played more of the instruments on
Demolition than I did on World So Bright.
DF:
I am so impressed with you as a writer. Is it a conscious decision to
write parts so that they create tension up to the choruses? I'm always
waiting for your choruses to kick in, and just when you think you've heard
it, the chorus kicks in. I always feel like you have a little button that
you push bringing the songs to a certain sonic level. Do you take a lot
of care to create that pull and release?
AS:
Yes, thanks, I know exactly what you are talking about. I can't quite
claim that it is 100% conscious.
DF:
That little extra is the Adam Schmitt trademark. "See Me Fall"
off of the new CD is a good example. The little extra gives your work
power.
AS:
There's something to that from influences that I have had. Specific examples
would be something like "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" where
the verse is so completely different than the chorus, making the song
so unique. I was a big fan of early XTC, who I think also took their cues
from "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds." I'm thinking of Andy Partridge's
early writing. "Senses Working Overtime" is a great example
of that. Or "This is Pop" or "Respectable Street",
verses which are really dissimilar to the choruses. You are not sure where
the song is going.
DF:
To the extent of even complete key changes and modulation.
AS:
Exactly. It's not quite so drastic as "Bohemian Rhapsody", but
at least it alleviates any sort of boredom that might occur. A song can
completely flip flop. One of my favorite songs is "Go Your Own Way"
by Fleetwood Mac. It does the same kind of thing where it has a twisted
verse combined with a chorus that just comes in forcefully.
DF: Describe your songwriting process.
AS:
Usually what happens is I'll get the idea for a song without lyrics. I
may conceptualize a title sometimes. That helps form a song. Conversely,
I'll very often just pick up a guitar and try to come up with a musical
idea and put that down to a little cassette tape or try to remember the
chords or melody and go back later and attach a title that fits with that
melody. It is an intangible thing that is hard to explain. You fit pieces
together that seem to make sense.
DF:
The manner in which you record is a feat. Do you see the use of digital
formats hurting the overall sound of some of the recordings you hear.
Some say you get no low end unless you are recording to 2" tape.
What do you think?
AS:
Demolition was recorded all digitally. I put more low end on Demolition.
I like the sound of analog immensely. It is a tried and tested format.
The cost of analog has skyrocketed. Parts have skyrocketed. Since digital
has now gone beyond 16 bit, I am convinced that digital has become a valid
way to record.
DF:
Isn't it true that it's the person using the equipment, not the equipment
that determines quality? Some have told me that the front end (mic pres
and mic) will determine the quality of sound in a digital format.
AS:
I would totally agree with that and say that it doesn't matter what format
you are using or what type of tape machine you are using just so long
as you know how to use it. My whole theory would just be that if you know
what type of sound you are going after and you arrive at it, it doesn't
really matter what format you use or what microphones you use to get it.
It's more important that you are happy with what you wind up with. Hopefully,
it will be pleasing to the listeners as well.
DF:
Favorite producers?
AS:
Steve Lillywhite, George Martin, so many...I love what Jon Brion is doing
nowadays.
DF:
I think Jon understands what you are talking about which is that it doesn't
matter the format. You just have to listen with your ears.
AS:
I think I have arrived at that partly due to necessity. To not have $200,000
every other month to make a record leads you down a path where you have
to find an alternative to a $50,000 analog tape deck that is meticulously
well maintained.
DF:
Will you be releasing Demolition in Europe?
AS:
Yes. Parasol has world wide distribution.
DF:
Are there any artists that you have worked with recently that we should
look out for?
AS:
Robyn Ranglund. It has been #1 on Amazon.com for the Midwest region. It
took about 5 months. I'm proud of that recording. We recently did a remix
of the Three Hour Tour CD, the first one to come out on Parasol. There's
also The Great Crusades CD
DF:
Any plans to tour?
AS:
I don't know about a full fledged tour. I plan on playing some live shows
around Chicago and Minneapolis. Maybe some St. Louis and Ohio shows.
DF:
Where can we get the new recording?

Through
Parasol's website.
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Editor's
Note: If you like what we recommend here at Fufkin.com, Demolition
is near the top of the list for 2001. We usually present a review with
our interviews, but we think we will let you be the judge of Demolition
by listening for yourself. To
listen to Windows Media clips of songs off of Demolition and/or
to purchase the CD, click the album covers above or click
here.
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