Robert Pally:
October,
2003
The
Bob Keane of Del-Fi Records Interview
Bob Keane helped to launch the careers of
legendary artists such as Ritchie Valens and Bobby Fuller
Four. In this interview he talks about Frank Zappa, Ritchie
Valens and his autobiography that will hopefully appear one
day.
Robert Pally: When came the decision to write
an Autobiography? What triggered it?
Bob Keane: For many years I have heard people
say to me, "Bob, you should write a book. You have so
many stories to tell." Several years ago I finally decided
that maybe I should have a book of my life and Del-fi so I
hired several people to write for me. But they didn't have
a clue as to what the book should be about, so in 1998 I started
to write it myself. I have never written a book, but I have
written many liner notes through the years, so I decided to
give it a try.
Robert Pally: What was the hardest thing
for you to talk about in your Autobiography?
Bob Keane: The hardest thing for me to talk
about was myself and my inner feelings. I am not a very gregarious
person and it is hard for me to express myself in the first
person.
Robert Pally: What do you regret from your
past as a musician and label owner?
Bob Keane: I regret that I didn't stay with
the clarinet through my days as a record label entrepeneur,
as did Herb Alpert. Regarding the label, I regret the partnerships
with which I became involved. Keen records, and Larry Nunes
in Stereo-Fi Corp. in particular.
Robert Pally: What was happiest moment for
you as a musician and label owner?
Bob Keane: Aa a musician, my happiest moment
was when, at the age of seventeen, I signed with MCA as "the
world's youngest bandleader". My happiest moment with
the record biz was when Ritchie Valens' "Come On Let's
Go" hit the national charts.
Robert Pally: What was important for you
when you wrote the Autobiography?
Bob Keane: The most important thing for me
when I started to write the book, was to make sure that the
reader would understand what I had gone through in my life,
and what I had accomplished. After forty five years, the world
is just now becoming aware of what Del-Fi has contributed
to the record industry.
Robert Pally: What would you do again? What
wouldn't you do again? (Being musician and label owner)
Bob Keane: If I had it to do again, I would
have set up a business plan from the beginning with qualified
people. I don't know what I wouldn't have done, since in this
business you have to take chances or you'll never get very
far.
Robert Pally: What is your opinion about
Bobby Fullers mysterious death?
Bob Keane: Bobby Fuller's death is still
a mystery to me as it is to everyone. I don't believe it will
ever be solved. In my book I go into the mystery quite extensively,
and it will undoubtedly open many new questions. However,
it won't solve the mystery.
Robert Pally: Which artists have you discovered?
Bob Keane: The artists I discovered are listed
in the prologue (Del-Fi was springboard for Frank Zappa, Ritchie
Valens, Sam Cooke, Dick Dale, Barry White and others). Others
not listed there, but who attained high positions on the charts,
were The Gallahads, Little Caesar and the Romans, Bobby Curtola,
Felice Taylor, and Chan Romero. There are others, however,
that went on to fame after first being released on my label.
Robert Pally: Frank Zappa released a couple
of singles on your label. What experiences have you had with
him? Is there a specially good story that you can tell me?
Bob Keane: I write about Zappa from information
given me by Paul Buff, the man really responsible for Zappa's
musical success. In the book, I tell of him "playing"
a bicycle on the Steve Allen show on CBS, and where he pitched
his first record release, "How's Your Bird" on Del-Fi.
Robert Pally: Were there times when you wanted
to give it all up (Label, being a musician)?
Bob Keane: Yes, in the '90s, things were
very difficult because of the change in musical tastes and
the music itself. My kind of music was not in vogue and I
had to adjust.
Robert Pally: How much different was it to
run a record company in the late fifties / early sixities
compared to today?
Bob Keane: The difference between the '60s
and '90s was like night and day. It was impossible to promote
without a huge bankroll and the market was flooded with new
releases, new labels, and no distributors.
Robert Pally: Was there a special incident
why Frank Zappa called you a "hip-pocket producer"?
Bob Keane: Frank called me a hip pocket producer
because I never planned anything specific for any artists.
I let them do their thing, which is what they all wanted.
Robert Pally: What was the difference between
the Hollywoods music scene and the ones from New York and
the East Coast in the late fifties / early sixities?
Bob Keane: New York and Hollywood were almost
foreigners musically back in the '50s and '60s. One of the
reasons for my book is to show the difference, and how each
area influenced the music of today. When rap became popular,
any group from the west coast was considered just a poor copy
of the eastern groups. Now, of course, it's mostly all in
Hollywood for new talent, and New York for the business end.
The Del-fi story is about all the talent that came out of
Hollywood during those years and how much of it was not acceptable
east of the Rockies.
Robert Pally: How many people worked for
Del-Fi in the heydays?
Bob Keane: We had ten people in the office,
but other reps and radio people throughout the country.
Robert Pally: What do you think about the
movie La Bamba? Was it done good or was it showing a bit too
romantic view of the real story?
Bob Keane: The La Bamba movie was about twenty
five percent true to facts. The rest was the usual Hollywood
treatment, with every trick in the books.
Robert Pally: What jobs did you do at Del-Fi?
Bob Keane: My jobs at Del-Fi were selecting
talent, engineering recording dates, mastering records, and
running the business of the day. This included contracts,
financing, music publishing, and promotional ideas. In fact
I did just about everything that had to be done.
Robert Pally: What did you think when you
saw Ritchie Valens the first time sing?
Bob Keane: The first time I saw Ritchie I
didn't think he was a great potential, because he didn't have
any songs, and he was too young to have any stage presence.
But he had a natural feeling for rock and a good voice. I
was impressed by how he affected the audience while he was
singing. Capitol Records had already passed on him because
he looked too old to be a teenager, they said.
Robert Pally: In the Prolouge that Bryan
Thomas, who used to work for Del-Fi, gave me, you talk about
how tragedies have influenced you and forced you in another
life. Can you give me an example?
Bob Keane: First it was Ritchie Valens who
was killed, and then Bobby Fuller, which caused the dissolution
of Mustang records. I had to find another form of work to
raise my three sons.
Robert Pally: What is going to happen to
Del-Fi? I heard once that you will sell it. Is that true?
How many people work for it at the moment?
Bob Keane: Del-Fi and it's legendary artists
will go on for many years. Right now, there are two other
in-office employees. The business today doesn't warrant a
large staff.
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