Robert
Pally :
April,
2005
Every Woman, Every
Man is a Star: The Fabienne Shine Interview
Fabienne Shine was the front woman of the
legendary seventies french hardrock band Shakin' Street, that
included at one time Ross the Boss (Dictators, Manowar). She
was one of the first woman to front a hardrock band. In the
interview she talks about her old band, her solo carer, Jimmy
Page (Led Zeppelin), Damon Edge (Chrome) and her plans for
the future.
Robert Pally: What was your first contact
with music?
Fabienne Shine: My first contact with music
was in North Africa when I was very little 3or 4. My mother
used to pay arab musicians to come to the house to play music
on friday night for the Ramadan. I was very scared of them
but at the same time I was turned on by the sounds, the houde,
the tarbouka, the percussions of all kinds, the flutes, and
I remembered of their camels parked outside! I was born in
Tunisia I don't know if I have sent you my last recording
of some arabic songs, I am very found of Sufi music, the derwich.
RP: What was the first instrument you picked
up?
Fabienne Shine: The first instrment I picked
up was a broom...yeah a broom, I used it as a standing microphone
in the front of the mirror,
and I pretended doing some Elvis but of course I was probably
9 years old. Then around 16 years old I fell in love with
Bob
Dylan and went to buy a harmonica and learn the harp on "Highway
61 revisited", "It's all over now,baby blue",
"Tombstone blues".
I wrote a song on my first album "Vampire Rock"
(1978), similar style
The blues is the same and I play the Harp.
RP: Was there a special band your song that
let you start music?
Fabienne Shine: Yeah, that was Led Zeppelin.
I met Jimmy Page in 1975 when I just arrived in California
for the first time. We fell in love at
first sight, and he changed my life by telling me that I am
a great singer....After when we went back to Europe ,we broke
up and I started Shakin'Street with Eric Lewy.
RP: What was the first band you played in?
Fabienne Shine: The first band I played with
was in Paris at school,
we wher doing some Rolling Stone songs, "Let's spend
the night
together", "Under my Thumb", "Wild Horses".
We were playing for the fun it was great for me to sing with
a drum and a bass and guitar .. the reel thing.
RP: What inspired you to you play the kind
of music you played
with Shakin Street?
Fabienne Shine: Pain and love and sadness
and incredible wilderness inspired me. And of course I was
full of Led Zeppelin concert touring for
the last 2 years so I was very good student and wanted to
be
similar with the heavy rythmes, and slick guitar sound, even
Robert Plant was an important inspiration in my way of singing,
for ever.
RP: It was pretty unusual for a woman to
front a hardrock band in
these days.
Fabienne Shine: It was yes indeed very unique
to see a petite woman fronting a heavy rock band! and how!
I was pretty much the first woman in the world to do this
kind of
music, and of course it was very authentic very wild and raw
very reel.I was a deliquent frankly, a runaway, with the rest
of
the membersof Shakin'Street. I left home very young, 15 years
old
and used to hang with older people anarchist, artist, they
were
like my parents. Yes, I was a rebel and the words of my songs
relate to my life..."No compromise", "Solid
as a Rock" and "I want to
box you".
RP: How was the reaction from the crowd /
press when you first showed up?
Fabienne Shine: The press was very excited, very interested.
After our first concert live in Mont de Marsan festival, we
played with major rock band like the Damned, Clash, Eddyand
the hot rods. We were totally unknown but we got on the front
page of a magazine, a big photograph of us in action, we stole
the show, you can say.
The crowed couldn't believe it, to see a small girl with such
huge
voice and wild energy. We turned on the small crowd in clubs
and the biggest stadiums the same way.
RP: Looking back what do you think of the 2 ShakinStreet albums
today?
Fabienne Shine: I think they sound still modern and timeless.
If we make another album I'd like to keep the same sound,
very reel kind of garage band sound, with an expensive
producer!
RP: Compared to Shakin Street your vocal
style today (shown on her solo album "No mad nomad")
has changed. On one side that has probably to do with the
different music you play today. Wasn't it also a bit intentional
or did it just turn out this was?
Fabienne Shine: Well I got older and more
mature and my emotions are obviously different with age and
experiences life makes music. And all your feelings are expressed
in the way you sing, and the way you
compose your songs. So yeah, it just turned that way naturally,
the same way life changes your way of thinkin'.Actually a
journalist said that I put water in my wine, but between you
and me I like wine without the water!
RP: How come Ross The Boss (Dictators) played in your band
on the 2nd album?
Fabienne Shine: When we met with Sandy Pearlman, the producer
of Blue Oyster Cult, we told him that we would love to be
produced by him!
So he came to Paris to see us at the University of Sciences,
where we rehearsalet. Sandy loved Paris.
He really liked us and Paris so he went to see CBS records
to ask them how much money they would give him if he produced
us. So it worked he was happy with the answer. After that
my great guitarist Armick sold his guitar to buy some heroine,
so we
fired him. We asked Sandy if he knew of a great lead guitarist
so, yeah he called Ross the Boss or Ross Friedman and that
was
the beginning of our grand success.
RP: How did you get to know Damon Edge (Chrome), who died
in 1995?
Fabienne Shine: During our American Tour in 1980, we had a
house in San Fransisco
for the group.That night The Ramones were playing at the Coloseum
in Okland the suburb of San Fransisco and we had the night
off. In the crowd was Damon. He saw me and wrote me a note
with his phone
number and the name of his band that I didn't know because
I was
new in town and Chrome was very industrial..punk..avantgarde.
So I called him a few days later for halloween and we got
married 2 months later. We loved each other very much!
R.P: Why did Shakin Street split?
Fabienne Shine: Shakin'Street split in a
very natural way, very common way! In fact we started to argue
a lot and the guitarists Eric Lewy and Ross the Boss coud'nt
stand each other anymore. It was hard to continue to play
together and especially compose new songs. Music is Love communication.
So any interference is a blocage to creativity. We had to
separate.
R.P. What did you do after that?
Fabienne Shine: I was very depressed, I just got my green
card to be able to tour in the States and no band to tour
with. I sang on Damon Edge recordings for Chrome, Damon was
really happy and then we went back to France for a few years
and there I started a solo career. I signed to Mercury Records
my album "Tango" and continue to sing Chrome on
stage on their french
tour. But I sang in french and my fans didn't like it at all!
R.P. What made Shakin Street reunite?
Fabienne Shine: Shakin' Street got back together for a gig
in Paris at the Olympia exactly. Very glamorous theatre where
only talented artists are
performing. So it was a great opportunity for us to play there
after 20 years, for a festival of Rock of the eighties. What
a blast it was! A date to remember June 18th 2004
R.P. What is the response from the crowd
so far?
Fabienne Shine: It was so warm. Surprisingly they
wanted more, the press wanted to know if we would get back
together, if we will go back on the road, but unfortunatly
nothing is sure. A record company released an old live album
and
also our second album "Solid as a Rock". It did
pretty well and
hopefully we should make another Shakin Street album in 2005.
At least I would like that.
R.P. You actually fit perfect in the new
wave of Hardrock and Metal with
bands like Darkness.
Fabienne Shine: Yes, I agree we fit perfectly
in there. But I would like to change our music into something
new, less classical, more original. And change my style of
singing into something more innovative, more unique, use middle
eastern sounds, a little bit like Page and Plant did in
1995. And yet I am very fond of blues and strong emotions
in the
voice. You see what I mean. Do you know the Velvet Revolver?
R.P. What is the difference for you when
it comes to music between the US and France?
Fabienne Shine:
France copied R&R , America is the creator of R&R
and Blues!
The reason I moved to the States is R&R ! French music
sucks! All the rockers in France know that,
and by the way I am very greateful to my fans in France who
knows the difference! Amen
R.P. How different to you approach songwriting
compared to when you were in Shakin Street?
Fabienne Shine:
Well it's a big difference because when I used to write with
Shakin'Street I was writting with a full impact of the 5 members,
I felt more agressive, more deliquant, outlaws, we were like
a family, like a gang. Now I write more personal. I feel like
expressing
myself as one to one , more intimate, like talking to my best
friend or to my brother or my lover.
R.P: What is important to you when you write
lyrics today?
Fabienne Shine: I try to write for all the
people who listen to lyrics, since a lot of people don't because
they get more into the beat. Sure that's important too infact
the beat means the same thing as the words
it's just another way of expressing. What is important for
me when writting lyrics is that I want
to help people who feel sad to feel better, for people who
feel depressed that it is necessary to go ahead.
I like give the message to my listeners that freedom is accessible,
that love is the key of happiness, never believe in the "No's"
or "can't". You must beleive in yourself because
Every Woman, Every Man is a star ! That we must all share
the joint. Amen
R.P. What would you kill for (refering to
the song "Kill for love" on "No mad nomad")?
Fabienne Shine: Wow!!
Well, I would kill someone who kills someone I love. But really
I wrote that song "Kill for Love" for the footballer
O.J.Simpson, who killed his wife and her lover because he
was jealous. I was very impressed by this case.
R.P. What plans do you have for the future?
Fabienne Shine:
I am leaving to go to Austin, Texas next week. I will record
with Helios Creed and the musicians from Chrome. Helios is
very talented
and ask me to write some songs together with him. I will also
sing.
And then I am planning on making a solo album with my musicians
in Los Angeles, with some very ecclectic
sounds and middle eastern instruments. Hopefully, I should
start to play live in L.A. and who knows maybe out of town
if everything goes
right.
www.cdbaby.com/cd/fabienne
(Fabinne Shine)
http://shakinstreet.maxximum.org/
(Shakin Street)
www.staticwhitesound.com
(Chrome)
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