Robert
Pally:
April,
2002
Why does Van Gogh Smile?
Rick
Gallego is the mastermind behind the L.A. band Cloud Eleven.
The fine psychedelic-tinged Soft-Pop of his second album
Orange and Green and Yellow and Near places him in the
same league as The Wondermints, Linus of Hollywood or Splitsville
(Pet Soul).
In the interview Ricks talks about confusing titles, psychedelic
moments, not looking like your music sounds and weird sixties
records.
Robert Pally: Your second album offers beside other elements
also is a touch psychedelic. What was the most psychedelic
moment during writing / recording the album?
Rick
Gallego: Maybe when I came on to the window pane I dropped
during the backward fuzz guitar solo on "Smolder"?
No seriously, I'm not sure. One has many psychedelic moments
in the process of creating, but most of the time it's hard
to remember them.
RP: What is the idea behind the rather confusing title of
the album?
RG:
Someone once asked a Byrds fan to describe what they dug about
the band, and they answered " they're orange and green
and yellow and near." I thought it would make an interesting
title for an album, but also it's sort of what California
means to me. Orange is the color of our state flower the poppy,
green rolling hills abound, plenty of yellow sunshine, and
always near.
RP: Van Gogh did probably not smile a lot. Why does he smile
in your song "Van Gogh Smiles"?
RG:
That's the irony of it. He didn't smile alot, but maybe in
some absinthe-fueled hallucinatory dream he did. The song
is sort of a hallucination as seen through his eyes. I always
thought of him as the first truly psychedelic painter. Just
stare at Self-Portrait with Felt Hat for awhile and
you'll see what I mean.
RP: You have split the album into 2 halves like a vinyl album.
Are you a hopeless anachronist?
RG:
I don't think so. I just heard the album sequenced in two
parts. They can be listened to separately or together and
still flow quite nicely. I do like the idea of a vinyl album
having two sides though. The little pause that happens while
turning a record over sets you up for the next half of the
listening experience.
RP: Name me the 3 weirdest and obscure 60s psych records you
own and why you like them!
RG:
I'd have to say We Are Ever So Clean by Blossom Toes,
S.F. Sorrow by the Pretty Things and the first Tomorrow
album. I like them because they are weird and obscure, but
mostly because they are genius.
RP: With whom would you have liked to work on your album that
you could not?
RG:
Oh I don't know, Syd Barrett?
RP: Compared to your first album from 1999 Orange and Green
and Yellow and Near sounds more refined and meloncholy.
What is for you the most important change?
RG:
Most importantly I didn't want to record the same album twice,
so this album was the next logical step for me. I think it's
a more honest, personal and sophisticated approach than the
last one. It shows some growth and maturity.
RP: In one way you are a bit like Steve Stanley (The Now People).
From looking at you one would never guess that you are making
this kind of music. Is this just a side that you are living
out?
RG:
What does one look like that would make this kind of music?
I don't think it really matters how a person appears on the
outside as long as they're true to their sound.
By the way, Steve Stanley is a friend of mine and I think
his sound matches his hair style quite nicely.
RP: What is the main reason for you to work alone, apart from
some guest musicians?
RG:
It's just easier for me since I can play what I hear, rather
than teaching someone else to play it. This time around I
did work closely with drummer Nelson Bragg. It's more of a
band approach than I've attempted in the past. His playing
adds alot to the sound of the album.
RP: The vocals on your new album sound especially careful
recorded. What did you do to make them sound so clear and
majestic?
RG:
It's probably the studio I recorded in. It has great microphones
and pre-amps. Plus I recorded more vocal tracks this time
than I did when I was recording in my home studio. They were
lush before but now they're even more so.
RP: Which singer had an impact on you?
RG:
There's alot of singers that affected me early on, but I'd
have to say Paul McCartney, Harry Nilsson, Colin Blunstone
and Todd Rundgren had the most impact.
RP: Your new album comes out on your own label. How did you
finance it?
RG:
Just like every other musician who's basically broke...credit
cards.
RP: What do you do for a living?
RG:
I work in the graphics field as a printing production manager.
It pays the bills.
RP: What is your favorite surrounding for writing songs?
RG:
I'm quite happy with the four walls that surround my living
room. I can get ideas anywhere, jot things down or sing them
into a little cassette recorder, but most
of the time I'm putting everything together in the living
room. Okay, sometimes the car. Shower too.
You
can contact Rick and purchase his music at www.cloudeleven.com
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