Michael
Lynch:
May, 2004
Meeting The Demands -
An Interview With New York City's Only Soul/Punk Band
With the New York area's garage scene overflowing with bands
that love to crank it up and go, merely riding out a four
chord vamp but adding little imagination, it's refreshing
to hear a band every once in a while that puts a different
slant on things.
One such band is New Jersey's The Demands.
The Demands aptly describe themselves as "New York City's
only Soul - Punk band," for though they have all the
kick of a typical garage band, they wash it down with soul
and wrap it around a melody, and the end result is probably
a fair approxmation of what would have happened if a teenaged
Etta James or Carla Thomas sat in with their neighborhood
group for an afternoon.
The Demands have been building up a following
won over by the tight chemistry of leader/bassist/vocalist
Jahna Rain, keyboardist Julia Rogers, guitarist Jon Pardo
and drummer Jimmy Farrell. Perhaps they, the following, too
are tiring of the crash and burn bands and crave the kinds
of new twists bands like The Demands provide.
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We'll start with the obvious first question...How
did The Demands come to be, and can you give a basic history
of the band?
Jahna: The Demands started right after The
Innuendos ended. I'm figuring it was around the beginning
of 2000 when we got the good/bad news that two key members
(Dave Rhoden and Sara Essex - you can find out more about
their current bands The All Night Movers and The Stacks at
www.davidrhoden.com) were leaving the Innuendos, cause they
we're getting married (to each other) and moving to New Orleans.
John: I was looking for a change of pace
and wanted to play in a band doing mostly original music.
Jahna and I played together in the past and the opportunity
to join The Demands opened up, so we made The Demands happen
with me on guitar.
Janha: The idea for The Demands was to mix
up all my favorite music - old soul, greasy r & b, power
pop and punk- and do something fun and a little different.
I had always thought that there was a fine line between soul
and punk anyway. I thought that the trick would be to play
soul music through a punk lens - to strip it down to the very
basics. So, when we started, the band was a three piece -
guitar, bass and drums. We went through a bunch of line-ups
before we got it right... We quickly figured out that we needed
something extra to make it work, and so Pardo joined the band
on lead guitar. By the Summer of 2002, we had grown to a six-piece
(two guitars, bass, drums, organ and baritone sax). But, we
were feeling like a lot of important stuff had gotten buried
under the enormous sound of this line-up, so we changed it
up again. The current lineup makes me pretty happy - I think
we finally hit the mark - I switched to bass, so we're now
down to one guitar, bass, organ and drums. Pardo has been
in the band for several years now, Julia for over two years
and Jimmy for about a year and a half. I gotta say that we've
been pretty lucky - we've had some amazing musicians and some
super nice guys in the band over the last few years.
Can I get, for each of you, your own history of bands you've
been in?
Jahna: 1985-89 - various bands that never
played out or got a name... sang, played bass. 1988 - played
bass in The Wolverteens (NYC). 1989-91 - played bass in The
Hated (NYC). 1991-92 - played bass in Smartbomb (Gainseville).
1993-96 - played guitar and sang lead in Rocketfuel (NYC).
1997-98 - played bass in The Defilers (NYC). 1999-00 - played
guitar and sang lead in The Innuendos (NYC). 2000-current
- played guitar and now bass and sing lead in The Demands
(NYC). 2002 - current - play drums in The Miscreants (NJ).
2003 - played bass in The High School Sweethearts. 2004 -
current - play lead guitar in The Whirls
John: I'll work it backwards. Before The
Demands, I played with Yod Crewsy in The Dark Marbles. I met
Dave Dibiasio there. Dave played drums with us in The Demands
for a year or so. Before that I played bass in Times Square
with Jill Matthews and Dave Ari (of The Devil Dogs and The
Headless Horsemen). Before Times Square, I played the organ
with The Defilers. That's where I met Jahna. She was playing
bass and screaming a lot. That band was really deep in the
cave. This all goes back about ten years, and I try to take
life in easy chunks. I'd like to deny the preceding decades.
Jimmy: Top 40, wedding bands, independent
contractor, oldies band, Heavy Metal, rock copy bands, blues
band.
Julia: I started studying cello and piano
when I was four years-old, so, Ive always been wrapped
up in music of some kind. However, The Demands was my very
first band. Of course, Ive always liked to cause trouble
that might be classified as "rock-and-roll;" some
people might say Ive been figuratively on the scene
since birth. Recently, I also started playing bass in The
Whirls.
Jahna, you're currently in two bands,
but you've been in as many as three at a time, and playing
a different instrument in each one. How hard has that been?
Jahna: The hardest part is making it to practice
every week with every band and still having a personal life.
Mostly it has been fun! By the way, I'm back to playing in
three bands on three instruments... Bass in The Demands, drums
in The Miscreants and lead guitar in The Whirls. It's like
juggling several lovers... you get the best of all worlds
this way. Still, The Demands are my main priority.
Relative to that, you do most of the lead
vocals, and now you play bass, which is generally considered
one of the hardest instruments to play while singing. How's
that been going?
Jahna: A lot easier than I thought it would
be. That's why I had never done it before - I thought I would
do neither well if I tried to do both. It's working well,
though - I have a lot more control over arrangements and feel
on bass than I did on rhythm guitar.
A three-parter for Jahna...Who are your
prime influences, first as a singer?
Jahna: Billie Holiday, Nina Simone, Etta
James, Aretha Franklin, Polly Styrene, Debbie Harry, Chrissie
Hynde, Elvis Costello, Otis Redding, Carla Thomas, Ella Fitgerald,
Louis Armstrong, Dusty Springfield, Joe Strummer... the list
goes on and on and on...
As a guitarist and/or bassist?
Jahna: Bass - Bruce Foxton and Donald Duck
Dunn are the biggest two... add to that Bruce Thomas and David
Hook Williams, of course...Jim Gange from The Secret Service--
I always preferred bass players who could carry the whole
melody by themselves - a kind of lead bass... but didn't do
it -- instead kept everything deceptively simple most of the
time. Guitar-- I always looked up to guitarists like Mitro
(Vacant Lot/Trick Babies) and Wild Bill (Senders) they're
both amazing to watch play. My fave jazz guitarist is Kenny
Burrell - I love that understated playing on "Blue,"
But -- I play 100% by feel -- I never thought of myself as
being that facile a player... I was always aiming at a rhythm
style that was choppy and clean and yet driving, like Pete
Townshend. My leads are ridiculous outsider noises. I don't
even try to emulate anyone... I love playing them, but I'm
always a little embarrassed by the way they come out.
As a songwriter?
Jahna: Elvis Costello, The Kinks, Nina Simone,
The Pretenders' first album, Smokey Robinson, Lennon/McCartney,
Mickey and Sylvia, Nick Lowe, Otis Redding, The Jam, The Buzzcocks,
and of course all that great girl group stuff/brill building
era Holland/Dozier/Holland... I am a huge fan of classic jazz
standards... you know like the Gershwins, Cole Porter, Duke
Ellington, Irving Berlin, Richard Rodgers, etc. And gooey
pop stuff like Barry/Kim.
Jimmy, yours as drummer?
Jimmy: Mitch Mitchell, Cozy Powell, Billy
Cobham, Tony Williams, and about 1,453,653 others. There are
so many talented drummers including the young guys that are
becoming prevelant on the scene. I am constanly being influenced.
One thing about the drums is that someone always manages to
kick it up to a higher level regardless of the type of music.
The new strain of musicianship is superb. It is too bad that
NYC radio sucks and that our ears will always search for those
players and bands to feed our heads with the music that moves
our souls.
John, guitar?
My Dad, John Pardo Sr., John Fogerty, Steve
Cropper, Richard Lloyd, Pete Shelley, Dave Edmunds, Ike Turner,
Scotty Moore, Luther Perkins, Waddy Wachtel.
Julia, your influences as keyboardist?
Until a little over 3 years ago, when I joined
The Demands, I had never really thought of a rock-and-roll
aspect of my keyboard playing. Being primarily a classically-trained
musician, I was always used to really complex and labor-intensive
piano pieces. Most of my "ensemble" playing was
cello-related, and I didnt do that much ensemble playing
and improvisation on the piano, so this was all new to me,
and I had to learn to simplify my playing and my ideas about
what sounded right given the make-up of the band. I would
say that I have always been a huge Stevie Wonder fan (not
1980s Stevie, but 1960s and 1970s Stevie),
so when I started playing with The Demands, I drew a lot from
his style, combined it with my classical influences, then
learned to apply the resultant product and shape it to fit
the more modern, louder Demands sound. I also have always
been exposed to and in love with jazz, so, Id say that
philosophically (at least in terms of improvisation), Ive
always taken a lot from the big band, brassy sound -- Dave
Brubeck, etc. -- along with other jazz greats; Duke Ellington;
Dizzy Gillespie; Duke Ellington; Miles Davis; John Coltrane;
Louis Armstrong. I also did a lot of homework when first joining
The Demands by listening to bands like The Deadly Snakes and
The Sights and The Dirtbombs for that garagey, rock-and-roll,
sometimes dirty soul-infused flavor. Strangely, in my spare
time, I find myself listening to a lot of electronica: Portishead;
Zero 7; Boards of Canada. I think some of the melodiousness
of this material has bled into my Demands organ and song arrangement/writing
ideas.
A rock and roll genie grants The Demands
one wish: he'll do one thing for the band. What will you ask
him to d
Jahna: Ask him for three more wishes! Seriously,
I suppose I'd ask for the time and money to make a really
great record and then tour around with some fun bands and
have a great time for a while.
Jimmy: Record a CD that will be listened
to for 30 plus years.
Jahna and Julia...your voices complement
each other perfectly, as evident on tracks like the dance
'n party-friendly "Right Here's Where It's At."
Are you two soul sisters
Julia: I think the key is that our voices
are quite different, and each have their own strengths that
bring something fresh to the music.
Jahna: We come at this music from totally
different places (I'm self taught and Julia has been performing
as a concert pianist and cellist since she was 4) but I think
we have arrived at the same place somehow. I like the way
we sing toghether, but I am most impressed - think we work
our best as a songwriting team.
You have several songs about fools...the
slow soulful "Running Out Of Fools," the faster
"Seven Day Fool." Do The Demands associate with
a lot of fools?
John: You got a problem with fools?
Jahna: I pretty much am one, when it comes
to anything I care about. I guess that's why those songs resonated
with me enough to want to cover them.
Julia: I dont want to speak for everyone,
but this particular Demand associates with far too many fools.
I think its all those renegade fools that give the female
Demands so much material for their song-writing.
Julia, The Demands often play a strong cover of "Since
I Fell For You" with you in the lead. Is that one of
your favorite songs, and one you have personal affinity for?
Julia: I wouldnt say "Since I
Fell For You" is one of my favorite songs. I think the
real reason I started singing it was because The Demands had
been performing it for so long and wanted to switch it up
a bit to make it fresh. Plus, I was dying to sing something.
Happily, that seemingly opened up the floodgates for Jahna
and I to realize our ability to be a prolific song-writing
team and for me to start singing some of our originals.
My personal favorite Demands song is "All
Right." Tell me about that song.
Jahna: Angry-pop written by me and Paul Endres
when we had the band Rocketfuel. It's pretty much about the
point after a break-up where you realize that maybe you can
survive without the relationship - that you might even be
better off... after you get a chance to get over it.
And what do each of you pick as your favorite?
Jimmy: "She's Something." J's guitar
part is sweet. The J's lyrics are great R rated rock and roll
lyrics and the two J's vocals rule.
Jahna: Too hard to pick one... Top 4 are
"I Want More," "The Sidewinder (He Can't Handle
Her,)" "Running Out Of Fools," and "Here
With You."
John: "Didn't I Tell Ya." It can
get real scary.
Julia: Im most proud of and happy with
the new songs weve written. My favorite is tied between
"Here With You" and "The Sidewinder."
Jahna, describe John.
Jahna: He's the glue in this band. Rock solid.
Both as a person and player - you can always count on him.
He's pretty much got it all - great player, great personality
and and pretty darn nice on the eyes, too.
John, describe Julia.
John: Other than her distracting obsession
with *The Eagles Greatest Hits,* Julia brings a fresh and
cynical outlook to the band. She and Jahna have contrasting
but complimentary personalities that steer the mood of the
band. I wish she would stop asking to cover "Take it
Easy," though.
Julia, describe Jimmy.
Jimmy is an amazingly loud drummer; I blame
this on his heavy metalish past. He is also a just plain amazing
drummer, and I appreciate the fact that he is sensitive to
the subtle differences in all our music and can dumb it down
or provide a healthy dose of pinache depending on what the
music requires. Incredible drummers and good people are hard-to-find
gems, and we have both in Jimmy. He also has come up with
some great ideas for freshening up our song arrangements,
which has allowed us to do a lot of growing in the past couple
years. If were talking about a non-musical description,
Id say that Jimmy is both sassy and fresh (when he remembers
to take his Geritol.)
Jimmy, describe Jahna.
Jimmy: Music is in her blood and I think
if she could not write or perform she would cease as a living
person. She is very creative in many ways and just not musically.
The feel she has for the music is outstanding and the transition
to playing the bass is a testament to that fact. I played
with a lot of talented people with no "feel" and
the music was as flat as an Irish girls chest. The Demands
are alive, pumping and rocking. The best thing that happenned
was Jahna switching to bass and kicking the band up a couple
of notches.
What's with the "J-names only in
this band" policy?
Jahna: I'm sorry - If I told you, I'd have
to kill you.
John: If you had a "J" name, you
would know already. This is a silly question.
Jimmy: Call the drummer "Timmy."
Julia: Yes, lately weve actually been
calling Jimmy "Timmy" to try to change our monochromatic
name image. It just might stick.
You've had some recordings released so
far on comps: I know of "All Right" on Gotham
Garage and "Gimme Gimme" on Garage Justice
Vol. 1. Are there any others I'm missing? And what recordings
are on the way?
Jahna: "Chinatown" just (finally)
came out on the Devil Dogs tribute album Attack from the
Planet of the Devil Dogs on Headdip Records out of Germany.
And we're in the studio right now (at Mitro's place) working
on our first full-length album.
Jimmy: The best is yet to come. YEA MAN!
Last October, you guys were on the bill
with Arthur Lee and Love. That must have been an honor. Any
great stories come out of that?
Jimmy: What a trip. I haven't heard those
songs since WABC -FM ! Wish I didn't toss away the acid from
the 60's.
John: It was more fun watching The Chesterfield
Kings warm up. That was a spectacle.
You also did the Las Vegas Rockaround
last September. Reflections on that?
John: Great show. Flew in, gambled, ate,
drank a lot, played show, drank a lot, gambled, drank a lot,
flew out. Compressed a weeks worth of activity into a Las
Vegas quickie. The only way to fly.
Jahna: That was one of the most fun weekends
of my life. We got to hang out with a whole bunch of interesting
people, including the gang from Get Hip Records and we wrote
one of my fave songs of ours "Here with You" when
we were there. It always makes me smile.
Julia: Las Vegas marked a real resurgence
in creative excitement for us. It gave us the chance to change
the scenery a bit and expose ourselves to an experience that
we dont get to have every day. I think its incredibly
important for us to occasionally get out of our element a
little, or a lot, and take some risks in order to grow as
a group.
What has so far been The Demands' finest
moment?
John: Scaring the crowd at the Abbey in Boston
a few years ago. I think they though Jahna was going to jump
off the stage and tear somebody up. Wild.
Jahna: We played our best show ever a few
weeks ago - best we ever sounded and the most fun, too. It
was at a friend's 40th birthday party at a biker roadhouse/package
store called the Great Notch Inn on Route 46 in NJ. That was
really fun. But the stuff that's happened in the studio since
then is probably the bet we've ever been. And I have a feeling
that the best has yet to come.
What's the future for The Demands as you
see it, or would like to see it?
Julia: I want to see us continuing to take
creative risks, first by finishing an album we are whole-heartedly
proud of and then possibly by going on tour and playing as
many shows as possible to continue to expand our horizons.
John: More scaring, Las Vegas one night stands,
and live rock and roll. Louder and faster.
Jahna: Finish the record, play some fun shows
(we've got three great ones lined up -- May 8 at Siberia,
NYC with the Deadly Snakes, June 5 at Magnetic Field in Brooklyn
for Julia's birthday with The Whirls (debut show), and June
19 at the Laughing Lizzard Lounge in Alexandria, VA with The
Florenteens. We're also supposed to play (New Jersey's WFMU's)
Joe Belock's show soon... that should be fun!! Hopefully the
record will be out before the end of the year. Maybe we'll
get a little touring in there, too.
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